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겠다

2010-03-15T05:10:44Z

고드름: /* Future tense */

'''Adjective/Verb + 겠다''': This grammar pattern has several usages:

# In first-person statements, the ending -겠- expresses intention or will. In this meaning, it is mostly used with [[formal]] grammar patterns such as [[A/V + (스)ㅂ니다]] and not used commonly in informal speech. This pattern is also stronger than the future tense [[A/V + (으)ㄹ 거예요]], which is a simpler future tense, and expresses less intention than than -겠다.
# -겠다 can also convey supposition, a guess, a thought or observation. It can sometimes be translated as 'I think', 'I bet', 'I guess', 'It/this looks ~', 'It must be ~'. This pattern can not be used to express the thoughts or supposition (etc) of a second or third person and must express the thought of the person saying or writing it.
#When combined with [[A/V + (으)면]] and follow by 좋겠다, it can be used to express a wish or desire, see [[A/V + (으)면 좋겠다]]
#When combined with the honorific marker [[A/V + (으)시|시]] and the verb 주다, it is a polite way to request or ask for something or some action to be done. See [[V + 아/어 주시겠다]] or [[N + 주시겠다]].
# -겠다 can also be added to 알다 (to know) and 모르다 (to not know) to raise the politeness. 알겠어요/모르겠어요 are generally more polite than 알았어요/몰라요.
==Notes==
*For the past tense version of 겠다 (supposition meaning), see [[A/V + 았/었 + 겠다]]

==Conjugation Rule==
{{Conjugation table
|Pattern1=Adjective/Verb + 겠다 
|Examples1=가다 → 가겠다 
|Pattern2=Adjective/Verb + 겠다 
|Examples2=좋다 → 좋겠다 
}}

==Sentence Examples==
===Future tense===
{{Example table
|Korex1 =그만 먹겠어요.
|Engex1 =I'll stop eating.
|Comment1 =informal form
|Korex2 =다시는 전 남자친구를 만나지 않겠어.
|Engex2 =I don't intend to meet my ex-boyfriend again.
|Comment2 =low form
|Korex3 =나는 지금 자러 가겠어.
|Engex3 =I'm going to go sleep now.
|Comment3 =low form
|Korex4 =내일은 꼭 그 일을 끝내겠어요.
|Engex4 =Tomorrow I'll definitely finish the job.
|Comment4 =polite informal form
|Korex5 =무슨 일이 있으면 핸드폰으로 연락하겠습니다.
|Engex5 =If something comes up I'll contact you on your cellphone.
|Comment5 =formal form
|Korex6 =그 사람이 올 때까지 기다리겠어요.
|Engex6 =I'll wait for him until he comes.
|Comment6 =polite informal form
|Korex7 =
|Engex7 =
|Comment7 =
|Korex8 =
|Engex8 =
|Comment8 =
|Korex9 =
|Engex9 =
|Comment9 =
|Korex10 =
|Engex10 =
|Comment10 =
}}

=== Supposition, conjecture===
{{Example table
|Korex1 =내일은 비가 오겠어.
|Engex1 =I bet it's going to rain tomorrow.
|Comment1 =low form
|Korex2 =나도 그 문제를 풀겠어.
|Engex2 =I bet I can solve the problem too.
|Comment2 =low form
|Korex3 =어린 아이도 그런 일은 할 수 있겠어요.
|Engex3 =I bet even a child could do that.
|Comment3 =polite informal form
|Korex4 =지은이는 지금쯤 미국에 도착했겠어요.
|Engex4 =I bet JiEun has arrived in America.
|Comment4 =polite informal form
|Korex5 =(Looking at her friend's dinner plate) 맛있겠다!
|Engex5 =Looks delicious!
|Comment5 =low form
|Korex6 =
|Engex6 =
|Comment6 =
|Korex7 =
|Engex7 =
|Comment7 =
|Korex8 =
|Engex8 =
|Comment8 =
|Korex9 =
|Engex9 =
|Comment9 =
|Korex10 =
|Engex10 =
|Comment10 =[[Category:Incomplete examples]] 
}}

==See Also==

*[[A/V + 았/었 + 겠다]]
*[[A/V + (으)면 좋겠다]]
*[[A/V + (으)ㄹ 거예요]]
*[[V + (으)ㄹ 게요]]
*[[V + 아/어 + 야겠다]]
*[[V + 아/어 주시겠다]]
*[[N + 주시겠다]]

[[Category:SNU Level 2 Grammar|ㄱ]]
[[Category:Grammar|ㄱ]]
[[Category:Future tense|ㄱ]]

Japanese derived words

2010-01-18T01:31:20Z

고드름: /* Slangs */

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Words derived from Japanese.

==General==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
|+Real dictionary words
! Words !! Korean !! Japanese !! English !! Note
|-
| 사라
| 접시
| 皿
| Plate
| Used as counting unit of food. • 회 한 사라 (a plate of raw fish)
|-
| 야끼
| 굽다
| 焼き
| Fry
| • 야끼만두 = 군만두 (fried dumpling)
|-
| 오뎅
| 어묵
| おでん
| Boiled fish paste
| 오뎅 is used more often than 어묵.
|-
| 아나고
| 붕장어
| アナゴ
| Conger, Sea eel
|
|-
| 와사비
| 고추냉이
| わさび
| Wasabi
| 와사비 is used more often than 고추냉이.
|-
| 우동
| 우동
| うどん
| Woo Dong
| Japanese food(noodle)
|-
| 돈까스
| 돈까스
| 豚カツ
| Breaded pork cutlet
|
|-
| 요지
| 이쑤시개
| 楊枝
| Toothpick
|
|-
| 다마내기
| 양파
| たまネギ
| Onion
|
|-
| 오봉
| 쟁반
| 盆
| Tray
|
|-
| 몸빼
| 몸빼바지
|
| Pajamas(?)
|
|-
| 꼬봉
| ...
|
| Underling
|
|-
| 기스
| 흠집
| 傷
| Groove, bruised
|
|-
| 무데뽀
| 막무가내
|
| Obstinately
| • 무대뽀로, 막무가내로, Obstinately
|-
| 찌라시
| 전단지,광고지
| チラシ
| Handbill
|
|-
| 히야시
| 차게 하다
| 冷やし
| To get cool
|
|-
| 구루마
| 손수레
| 車, 手車
| Handcart
|
|-
| 다마
| 구슬
| 玉
| Bead
| Also 당구공(billiard ball),전구(light bulb) are called 다마.
|-
| 이빠이
| 가득
| いっぱい
| Full
|
|-
| 쓰메끼리
| 손톱깎이
| 爪切り
| Nailclippers
|
|-
| 와리바시
| 나무젓가락
| 割り箸
| Wooden chopsticks
|
|}
==Slangs==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
|+Non dictionary words
! Words !! Korean !! Japanese !! English !! Note
|-
| 오타쿠
| 매니아(?)
| オタク
| Maniac
| In the original Japanese, 오타쿠 means a person who has an obsessive interest in some area, such as a video games or animated cartoon characters.<br> In Korea, 오타쿠 is similar, but takes on a more negative meaning.
|-
| 가라오케
| 노래방
| カラオケ
| Singing room
|
|-
| 고데기
| 고데기
|
| Curling iron
|
|-
| 나가리
| 무효,깨짐
|
|
| Used in game or something. Especially often used in "고스톱(화투):Korean card playing".<br>•이번 판은 나가리야. (This game is broken??)
|-
| 쯔끼다시
| 전채요리,밑반찬
|
| Free side dish, Appetizer
| 쯔끼다시 means free side dish at the restaurant. Especially it means appetizers in Japanese restaurant. (쓰끼다시)
|-
| 다대기
| 다진양념
|
| Red pepper seasoning
|
|-
| 쇼부
| 합의
| 勝負
| Mutual agreement
| Originally 쇼부 means 'game, match, to contend for victory' in Japan. But used as mutual agreement in Korea.
|-
| 쿠사리
| 야단, 구박
|
| Scolding
|
|-
| 땡깡
| 떼
|
| ask for the impossible
| • 땡깡을 부리다 = 떼쓰다(ask for the impossible)<br> Children ask parents to buy something or to go somewhere.
|-
| 가라(가라로)
| 대충, 가짜로
|
| Loosely
|
|-
| 노가다
| 막일
|
| Physical labor
| Originally meaning construction work, but expanded to any kind of work or difficult tast.
|-
| 단도리
| 준비, 채비
|
| Preparatio
|
|-
| 나시
| 나시
|
| Sleeveless shirt
|
|-
| 후까시(잡다)
| 폼 잡다
|
|
| 후까시 is used for putting on some pretense, particularly pretending to be dignified, splendid. (후까시 잡다)
|-
| 유도리
| 융통성
|
| Flexibility
|
|-
| 모찌
| 찹쌀떡
| 餅
| Chap Sal Rice cake
| made from glutinous rice
|-
| 사시미
| 회칼?
| 刺身
|
| Originally 사시미 means raw fish in Japan, but it is used for Kitchen knife for cutting raw fish. The edge of a knife is very sharp. So gangsters often use this tool (in movies).
|-
| 만땅
| 가득
|
| Full
| At the gas station : 만땅이요. = 가득 채워주세요. =Fill it up, please.
|-
| 빵구
| 펑크,구멍
|
| Puncture
| 펑크:konglish
|-
| 빠꾸
| 뒤
|
| Back
| 빠꾸 is Japanese pronunciation of 'back'. Used for parking a car
|-
| 자꾸
| 지퍼
|
| Zipper
|
|-
| 엑기스
| 엑기스
| エキス
| Extract
|
|-
| 레자
| 인조가죽
| レザー
| Imitation leather
|
|-
| 시다바리
|
|
| Underling
|
|-
| 바께스
| 바구니, 양동이
| バケツ
| Basket
|
|-
| 빤스
| 팬티
| パンツ
| Panties
|
|-
| 하이바
| 헬맷, 안전모
|
| Safety helmet
|
|-
| 난닝구
| 속옷/런닝셔츠
|
| Undershirt
| 런닝셔츠(Konglish)
|-
| 메리야스
| 속옷/런닝셔츠
|
| Undershirt
| 런닝셔츠(Konglish)
|-
| 미싱
| 재봉틀
| ミシン
| Sewing machine
|
|}

==Similar words==
Words that are very similar to Japanese words.
*짬뽕 - Jjampong (ちゃんぽん:챤뽕)

[[Category:Vocabulary]]

Brainstorm

2010-01-11T01:25:24Z

고드름:

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==General==
*Remove the skins table temporarily. Waiting on a bug fix and the update should be posted [http://forum.paulgu.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=177 here]
*[[Help:Images and photos|Guidelines for taking photos]] needs to be expanded on
*For subway color usage as well as Korean colors for tables. Grey and white tables can look dull after a while.
*Videos or animated gifs showing conjugation in action for irregular verbs as well as the differences in V + 다가 vs V + 았 / 었 + 다가 (etc).
*Similar to the learning 한글 section, a step by step section for learning Korean.
*Section that makes comparisons for grammar, for example when to use each future tense and 하다 vs 되다 verbs. What do we name it?
*If we don't mind using outside content, we could include nice videos done by people like KoreanClass101.com on relevant pages. For example, I think they have a video Hangeul lesson. Along with providing information, we can also organize the great stuff on the net. That would help make it so we don't have to create so much original content (at least in the beginning).
::How about making our own youtube videos for completed vocabulary pages? This would have to be in the future after we get all the basics done. - [[User:Bluesoju|Bluesoju]] 02:07, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
::That could be very useful -[[User:Mstrum|Mstrum]] 01:31, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Also similarly to how you use youtube videos on your site, how about some clips for slang and perhaps idioms. We can display the subtitle in Korean and English and show a short clip from a movie or show. For example at the beginning of Old Boy one of the cops says that "this guy must really want to eat 콩밥" and that could be added on the 콩밥 page. Perhaps we might want to create a separate youtube account so these little clips don't clutter your old account. -[[User:Bluesoju|Bluesoju]] 00:12, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
*More userboxes, like "This user is a level 3 student at SNU/Yonsei/Sogang."
*Quiz for vocabulary pages
*Vocabulary pages translated for individual programs, i.e. microsoft word, utorrent etc
*Korean name page. List common Korean names and rules about how to tell the gender of a person based upon the name.

==Getting the word out==
===To-do before campaigning===
*Complete guidelines, standards and help
*Professional video introduction(?)
*Translating important pages to Korean.
===Methods===
*Send messages to K-bloggers
*Find other language learning sites and post a message
*Posting a flier at Language schools in Seoul
*Emailing other Korean university programs and asking them to join.
*Emailing Korean university clubs.
*Facebook

==Software or extensions==
*Anti bot and spam filter for registering.
==Forum==
*Set up forums (either vBulletin or phpBB would be fine)
**Add link from Top (to the main page) and HelpTop (to a help section)
==Misc==
*A section on words that are considered feminine or masculine. For example it's mostly women who say 미워 to men. Also the interrogative form A/V + 니 sounds feminine where as men mostly use A/V + 냐 instead.
**Good idea, maybe this could be one part of a new section like 'Spoken' or 'Conversation'
*The search on here sucks, it can't even find the pattern [[A/V + (으)ㄹ지도 모르다]] using the search term n(으)ㄹ지 모르다. Needs to be fixed or users to effectively find grammar patterns.
*Article on how to write emails? Links to sites that can help with learning how to type in Korean, like flash based typing games?
*Information on different Korean dialects? Can be compltely separate from other parts of the wiki, available for those who speak Seoul Korean comfortably and are curious about how other people speak.

==Logo and Background==
[[Image:Logo idea.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Idea for a new logo]]
*New logo, something more complex and unique.
*Background ok for now?
*Extension for picking different backgrounds?

Article media request

2010-01-10T04:18:07Z

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If you've come to this website looking for a particular article and it wasn't available, or perhaps you've found the page for the article you wanted but there is no content on there, then this is the place to ask someone to create the article or finish an article. Do you have some confusion between two grammars and want to someone to create an article that shows the comparison between the two? Ask here! In need of some type of media such as an audio clip, picture or video? Ask here!

Simply add your request by editing this page and adding the line:
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in the appropriate section. The <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> signs your name next to the post. If someone already posted the same article you want, then just sign your name next to theirs by adding '''<nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>'''. The more people requesting, the article the more likely someone will add the article for you. --[[User:Bluesoju|Bluesoju]] 06:20, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

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If you want to suggest an article to be created or finished, please add it below and remember to sign your name on your post.

* Article on written Korean conventions, especially on how to write emails, both friendly and formal, and post comments on the Internet. What verb forms and special vocabulary are used, etc.[[User:고드름|고드름]] 04:18, 10 January 2010 (UTC)?

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*Need an audio specialist who might be able to clean up background noise or improve the quality of various audio files already posted (i.e. subway announcements) --[[User:Bluesoju|Bluesoju]] 00:59, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
*Recorded phone conversation of ordering pizza, or any other type of delivery. The address and personal info should be censored and the conversation should be have a transcript.
*I'm thinking about putting a temporary directory where the original audio clips can go so some sound experts can modify them and reupload them in better quality after applying filters. --[[User:Bluesoju|Bluesoju]] 02:56, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
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*A human body diagram so we can label it in Korean.
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*A video tutorial showing how to install Korean on various operating systems.
*A video tutorial on how to type in Korean.
*I intend to show some short movie clips as well as educational videos in the future on our newly created youtube account:[http://www.youtube.com/user/KoreanWikiProject KoreanWikiProject]. Ideally i'd like to show many videos or idioms in use from various movies in one clip. --[[User:Bluesoju|Bluesoju]] 02:56, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

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