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User talk:Chunbum Park

2009-07-14T22:33:21Z

Chunbum Park:

{{Welcome|Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park}}

Hi, first welcome to our site. Thank you for your suggestions, Matt is the guy who's programming Hangeul Assistant, so he might get an idea from that. --[[User:Bluesoju|Bluesoju]] 01:47, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

:Hello. Thank you for the welcome.

Several weeks ago, I obtained a high quality hand-held recorder that I might be able to use to create audio samples.

There are certain consonants in Korean that simply cannot be described sufficiently in English (까, 빠, 따, 싸), so I think it's imperative for this wiki project to provide audio samples for each vocabulary in the database.

However, I'm not sure how I might upload audio files & post them on the appropriate pages. Could you tell me what I could do to accomplish this?
([[User:Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park]] 02:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC))
::You're absolutely right about that. I've been working these days, but summer break starts in 1 week for me. During the break I will try to treat this website like a full time job and I've already coordinated with some people to begin recording those sounds for hangeul page. We will offer two basic sounds for the beginner, the voice of a man and a woman in their 20's as the standard voice. However in the future we would like to offer more different types of voices. On top of that we'd like to create listening practices for distinguishing between ㅋ, ㄲ, ㄱ -- ㅌ, ㄷ, ㄸ, -- ㅍ, ㅂ, ㅃ (and so on).

::Is your handheld recorder digital? If so does it record in mp3? Let me know and I can teach you what to do from there. I see you are bilingual and seem passionate about Korean history. We'd also like to put up articles in the future about the history of Hangeul and I have a personal interest in archaic Korean 자모 (though I know nothing about them). --[[User:Bluesoju|Bluesoju]] 03:07, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

:::Yes it is digital. At Citizendium, I'm currently working on the [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Kimchi Kimchi] article. The progress that I've often resulted on such Korea-related topics was always slow because it is very difficult to find the appropriate references. I'm looking up Korean encyclopedia sites, but they're somewhat hard to understand for me. I think it would be best to rely on a comprehensive book rather than bits and pieces on the web to write about Hangeul. ([[User:Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park]] 03:59, 11 July 2009 (UTC))

::::If it's digital it should be pretty straight forward. Use a usb for whatever method to get your file onto the computer, after that you should see an "upload file" at the bottom of the page. Then to actually put the audio on a page, there's an mp3 icon in the toolbar when you edit a page, just change the file name. I will make a help guide for this and let you know.

::::Does this help? [[Help:Posting mp3]] ? --[[User:Bluesoju|Bluesoju]] 05:51, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yes. Thank you. ([[User:Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park]] 22:33, 14 July 2009 (UTC))

(으)ㄴ 지(가) 얼마 안 되었다

2009-07-11T05:18:49Z

Chunbum Park: /* See Also */

==Description==
'''V + (으)ㄴ 지(가) 얼마 안 되었다''' : This pattern means '''it hasn't been that long since (verb)'''. The opposite pattern is [[V + (으)ㄴ 지(가) 오래되었다]].

===Notes===
*되었다 can be contracted to 됐다.
*The 가 in 지가 is optional.

==Conjugation Rule==
{{Conjugation table
|Pattern1=V + ㄴ 지(가) 얼마 안 되었다 
|Examples1= 
|Pattern2=V + 은 지(가) 얼마 안 되었다 
|Examples2= 
}}
==Sentence Examples==
{{Example table
|Korex1 =여자 친구 만난 지가 얼마 안 되었어.
|Engex1 =It hasn't been that long since I've met my girlfriend.
|Comment1 =Low form([[반말]])
|Korex2 =고향 온 지가 얼마 안 됐어요.
|Engex2 =It hasn't been that long since I've came to my hometown.
|Comment2 =Polite informal<br>Contracted ending
|Korex3 =서울에 이사한 지 얼마 안 되었어요.
|Engex3 =It hasn't been that long since I've moved to Seoul.
|Comment3 =Polite informal
|Korex4 =
|Engex4 =
|Comment4 =
|Korex5 =
|Engex5 =
|Comment5 =
|Korex6 =
|Engex6 =
|Comment6 =
|Korex7 =
|Engex7 =
|Comment7 =
|Korex8 =
|Engex8 =
|Comment8 =
|Korex9 =
|Engex9 =
|Comment9 =
|Korex10 =저녁 먹은 지 얼마 안 됐어요.
|Engex10 =It hasn't been that long since I've ate dinner.
|Comment10 =Polite informal<br>Contracted ending
}}

==Pronunciation==
*Special pronunciation rule?

==See Also==
*[[V + (으)ㄴ 지(가) 오래되었다]]
*[[N + 할 지 or 것 V]]

[[Category:SNU Level 3 Grammar|ㄴ]]
[[Category:Grammar Pattern|ㄴ]]
{{Languages|{{PAGENAME}}}}

User talk:Chunbum Park

2009-07-11T03:59:41Z

Chunbum Park:

User:Chunbum Park

2009-07-11T02:49:04Z

Chunbum Park: Created page with '[http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/User:Chunbum_Park Citizendium user page]'

[http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/User:Chunbum_Park Citizendium user page]

User talk:Chunbum Park

2009-07-11T02:39:53Z

Chunbum Park:

Talk:Article media request

2009-07-11T01:31:18Z

Chunbum Park:

==cleaning up audio==
the best free program for editing audio files is audacity. http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ ([[User:Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park]] 01:28, 11 July 2009 (UTC))

to export files in mp3, you need the lame encoder. http://lame.buanzo.com.ar/ ([[User:Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park]] 01:31, 11 July 2009 (UTC))

Talk:Article media request

2009-07-11T01:28:40Z

Chunbum Park: Created page with '==cleaning up audio== the best free program for editing audio files is audacity. http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ (~~~~)'

==cleaning up audio==
the best free program for editing audio files is audacity. http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ ([[User:Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park]] 01:28, 11 July 2009 (UTC))

Talk:Brainstorm

2009-07-11T01:25:28Z

Chunbum Park: Created page with '== a program for ppl just starting to learn korean == Hello, I have an idea about an interactive program that this wikiproject could make and host (but i dont know how to progra…'

== a program for ppl just starting to learn korean ==

Hello, I have an idea about an interactive program that this wikiproject could make and host (but i dont know how to program). It'd be for ppl who know very little Korean or none at all.

Its topic would be the "directional" nature of the vowels, for each of which there is a directional opposite.

for example, the designation of the following sounds -- '''ㅏ''' (ahh) & '''ㅓ''' (uhh), '''ㅗ''' (oh), '''ㅜ''' (oo), '''ㅡ''' (eau), '''ㅣ''' (eee) '''ㅔ'''/'''ㅐ''' (eh) -- "make sense" in that it wouldn't "make sense" otherwise - '''ㅏ''' (oo) & '''ㅓ''' (uhh), '''ㅗ''' (ah), '''ㅜ''' (eee), '''ㅡ''' (oh), '''ㅣ''' (eau) '''ㅔ'''/'''ㅐ''' (eh)

If there was a program or a sort of a game in which people had to guess by process of elimination the appropriate fit between a vowel sound in audio and the vowel character, i think it'd be fun & lead to an "aha it's logic, not all-out memorization" kind of realization. What do you think? ([[User:Chunbum Park|Chunbum Park]] 01:25, 11 July 2009 (UTC))