TTMIK nível 7 lição 18 (Brasil) - Revision history

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	'''<font size="3"><font color=DeepSkyBlue>Diferença entre <font color=DeepPink>-(ㄴ/는)다던데(요)</font> e <font color=DeepPink>-(ㄴ/는)다는데(요)</font></font></font>'''<br />		'''<font size="3"><font color=DeepSkyBlue>Diferença entre <font color=DeepPink>-(ㄴ/는)다던데(요)</font> e <font color=DeepPink>-(ㄴ/는)다는데(요)</font></font></font>'''<br />

	Há um sutil diferença na nuance entre -던데 e -는데, e ela é baseada no fato de que -던 normalmente está associado ao ~~tekpo~~ passado enquanto que -는 está associado ao tempo presente.		Há uma sutil diferença na nuance entre -던데 e -는데, e ela é baseada no fato de que -던 normalmente está associado ao tempo passado enquanto que -는 está associado ao tempo presente.
	Nós veremos -던 mais detalhadamente em uma lição futura, então por enquanto apenas repare a diferença.<br />		Nós veremos -던 mais detalhadamente em uma lição futura, então por enquanto apenas repare a diferença.<br />
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	학생이래요. = Ele diz que é um estudante.<br />		학생이래요. = Ele diz que é um estudante.<br />

	학생이라던데요. = Ele diz que é un estudante. (+ (ex) O que devemos fazer então?)<br />		학생이라던데요. = Ele diz que é um estudante. (+ (ex) O que devemos fazer então?)<br />
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	<nowiki>*</nowiki> O mesmo se aplica a 래(요) e -(이)라던데(요).<br />		<nowiki>*</nowiki> O mesmo se aplica a -(이)래(요) e -(이)라던데(요).<br />
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Juccie at 00:19, 26 September 2017

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	'''<font size="3"><font color=DeepSkyBlue>Diferença entre <font color=DeepPink>-(ㄴ/는)대(요)</font> e <font color=DeepPink>-(ㄴ/는)다던데(요)</font></font></font>'''<br />		'''<font size="3"><font color=DeepSkyBlue>Diferença entre <font color=DeepPink>-(ㄴ/는)대(요)</font> e <font color=DeepPink>-(ㄴ/는)다던데(요)</font></font></font>'''<br />

	Enquanto que -(ㄴ/는)대(요) é usado principalmente para apenas recontar um estória ou entregar certa informação, quando você usa -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요), você implica que você quer algum tipo de reação ou resposta do ouvinte.<br />		Enquanto que -(ㄴ/는)대(요) é usado principalmente para apenas recontar uma estória ou entregar certa informação, quando você usa -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요), você implica que você quer algum tipo de reação ou resposta do ouvinte.<br />
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Juccie at 15:59, 24 September 2017

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Juccie at 11:41, 22 September 2017

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	Há um sutil diferença na nuance entre -던데 e -는데, e ela é baseada no fato de que -던 normalmente está associado ao tekpo passado enquanto que -는 está associado ao tempo presente.		Há um sutil diferença na nuance entre -던데 e -는데, e ela é baseada no fato de que -던 normalmente está associado ao tekpo passado enquanto que -는 está associado ao tempo presente.
	Nós veremos -던 mais detalhadamente em uma lição futura, então por enquanto apenas repare a diferença.		Nós veremos -던 mais detalhadamente em uma lição futura, então por enquanto apenas repare a diferença.
	지금 온다던데요. = ~~They said that they would come here now~~.		지금 온다던데요. = Eles disseram que viriam aqui agora.
	지금 온다는데요. = ~~They are saying that they will come here now~~.		지금 온다는데요. = Eles estão dizendo que virão aqui agora.
	유명하다던데요. = ~~I heard that she’s famous~~.		유명하다던데요. = Ouvi dizer que ela é famosa.
	유명하다는데요. = ~~He is saying that she’s famous~~.		유명하다는데요. = Ele está dizendo que ela é famosa.
	* ~~The same applies to~~ -(이)래(요), -(이)라던데(요) ~~and~~ -(이)라는데(요).		* O mesmo se aplica para -(이)래(요), -(이)라던데(요) e -(이)라는데(요).
	학생이라던데요. = ~~They told~~ me ~~that they were students~~.		학생이라던데요. = Eles me disseram que eram estudantes.
	학생이라는데요. = ~~They say that they are students~~.		학생이라는데요. = Eles dizem que são estudantes.
	공원이라던데요. = ~~They said that they were at a park~~.		공원이라던데요. = Eles disseram que estavam no parque.
	공원이라는데요. = ~~They say that they are at a park.ve heard from someone else. The structures used for saying these are -(ㄴ/는)대(요) and -(이)래(요).~~		공원이라는데요. = Eles dizem que estão no parque.
	~~Let’s review a little bit.~~		Exemplos de Frases
	~~My friend is busy now.~~
	~~My friend says that she is busy now.~~

	~~There is a slight difference in nuance between -던데 and -는데, and it’s based on the fact that -던 is usually associated with the past tense whereas -는 is associated with the present tense.~~
	~~We are going to look at -던 in a more detail in a future lesson, so please just note the difference for now.~~
	~~지금 온다던데요. = They said that they would come here now.~~
	~~지금 온다는데요. = They are saying that they will come here now.~~
	~~유명하다던데요. = I heard that she’s famous.~~
	~~유명하다는데요. = He is saying that she’s famous.~~
	* The same applies to -(이)래(요), -(이)라던데(요) and -(이)라는데(요).
	~~학생이라던데요. = They told me that they were students.~~
	~~학생이라는데요. = They say that they are students.~~
	~~공원이라던데요. = They said that they were at a park.~~
	~~공원이라는데요. = They say that they are at a park~~.
	~~Sample Sentences~~
	1. 여기 위험하다던데요.		1. 여기 위험하다던데요.
	= ~~I heard that this place is dangerous~~. (+ (ex) ~~What do you think~~?)		= Ouvi dizer que este lugar é perigoso. (+ (ex) O que você acha?)
	2. 혼자 갈 거라던데요.		2. 혼자 갈 거라던데요.
	= ~~She said she would go there alone~~. (+ (ex) ~~Shall I talk to her again~~? / ~~You can’t go with her~~.)		= Ela disse que iria lá sozinha. (+ (ex) Devo falar com ela de novo?/ Você não pode ir com ela.)
	3. 그 사람도 모른다던데요.		3. 그 사람도 모른다던데요.
	= ~~He said that he doesn’t know either~~. (+ (ex) ~~So why keep asking him~~?)		= Ele disse que também não sabe. (+ (ex) Então por que continuar perguntando a ele?)
	4. 벌써 다 끝났다던데요.		4. 벌써 다 끝났다던데요.
	= ~~They said that it was already all over~~. (+ (ex) ~~There was nothing I could do~~.)		= Disseram que tudo já tinha terminado. (+ (ex) Não havia nada que eu pudesse fazer.)
	5. 한국에 겨울에 가면 많이 춥다던데요.		5. 한국에 겨울에 가면 많이 춥다던데요.
	= ~~I heard that it’s very cold in Korea if you go there in winter.~~ (+ (ex) ~~Perhaps you should pack more clothes~~.)		= Ouvi dizer que faz muito frio na Coreia se você for no inverno (+ (ex) Talvez você deva levar mais roupas.)

Juccie at 11:15, 22 September 2017

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 Diferença entre -(ㄴ/는)대(요) e -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요)
 Enquanto que -(ㄴ/는)대(요) é usado principalmente para apenas recontar um estória ou entregar certa informação, quando você usa -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요), você implica que você quer algum tipo de reação ou resposta do ouvinte.
-orean in order to re-tell someone what you’ve heard from someone else. The structures used for saying these are -(ㄴ/는)대(요) and -(이)래(요).
+지금 와요. = Ela está vindo agora.
 Let’s review a little bit.
   My friend is busy now.
   My friend says that she is busy now.
 There is a slight difference in nuance between -던데 and -는데, and it’s based on the fact that -던 is usually associated with the past tense whereas -는 is associated with the present tense.
 We are going to look at -던 in a more detail in a future lesson, so please just note the difference for now.

Juccie at 10:35, 22 September 2017

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	1. -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요)		1. -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요)
	2. -(이)라던데(요)		2. -(이)라던데(요)
	Ambas são muito similares às estruturas introduzidas na lição anterior. -(느)ㄴ다던데(요) é similar à -(ㄴ/는)대(요) (da primeira sentença revisada acima) e ~~ow to say “They say …”~~, ~~or “I hear that …” in Korean~~ in order to re-tell someone what you’ve heard from someone else. The structures used for saying these are -(ㄴ/는)대(요) and -(이)래(요).		Ambas são muito similares às estruturas introduzidas na lição anterior. -(느)ㄴ다던데(요) é similar à -(ㄴ/는)대(요) (da primeira sentença revisada acima) e -(이)라던데(요) é similar à -(이)래(요). Assim como -(ㄴ/는)대(요) é uma abreviação de -(ㄴ/는)다고 해(요), -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요) é uma abreviação de -(ㄴ/는)다고 하던데(요). O mesmo se aplica a -(이)래(요) e -(이)라던데(요).
			Diferença entre -(ㄴ/는)대(요) e -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요)
			Enquanto que -(ㄴ/는)대(요) é usado principalmente para apenas recontar um estória ou entregar certa informação, quando você usa -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요), você implica que você quer algum tipo de reação ou resposta do ouvinte.
			orean in order to re-tell someone what you’ve heard from someone else. The structures used for saying these are -(ㄴ/는)대(요) and -(이)래(요).
	Let’s review a little bit.		Let’s review a little bit.
	My friend is busy now.		My friend is busy now.
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	And in this lesson, we are looking at the following structures:		And in this lesson, we are looking at the following structures:

	Both of these are very similar to the structures introduced in the previous lesson. -(느)ㄴ다던데(요) is similar to -(ㄴ/는)대(요) (from the first review sentence above) and -(이)라던데(요) is similar to -(이)래(요). Just like -(ㄴ/는)대(요) is an abbreviation of -(ㄴ/는)다고 해(요), -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요) is an abbreviation of -(ㄴ/는)다고 하던데(요). The same applies to -(이)래(요) and -(이)라던데(요).		Whereas is used to mainly just re-tell a story or deliver certain information, when you use -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요), you imply that you want some kind of reaction or response from the listener.
	~~Difference between -(ㄴ/는)대(요) and -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요)~~
	Whereas ~~-(ㄴ/는)대(요)~~ is used to mainly just re-tell a story or deliver certain information, when you use -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요), you imply that you want some kind of reaction or response from the listener.
	지금 와요. = She’s coming now.		지금 와요. = She’s coming now.
	지금 온대요. = She says she’s coming now.		지금 온대요. = She says she’s coming now.

Juccie at 00:47, 21 September 2017

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	~~In the previous lesson~~, ~~we learned how to say “They say …”~~, ~~or “I hear that …” in Korean in order to re-tell someone what you’ve heard from someone else~~. ~~The structures used for saying these are~~ -(ㄴ/는)대(요) ~~and~~ -(이)래(요).		Na lição anterior, aprendemos como dizer "Dizem..", ou "Eu ouvi que..." em coreano a fim de recontar a alguém o que você ouviu de outro alguém. As estruturas usadas para dizer isso são -(ㄴ/는)대(요) e -(이)래(요).
	~~Let’s review a little bit~~.		Vamos revisar um pouquinho.
	1.		1.
	제 친구가 지금 바빠요. = ~~My friend is busy now~~.		제 친구가 지금 바빠요. = Minha amiga está ocupada agora.
	→ 제 친구가 지금 바쁘대요. = ~~My friend says that she is busy now~~.		→ 제 친구가 지금 바쁘대요. = Minha amiga diz que está ocupada agora.
	2.		2.
	이게 제일 좋은 거예요. = ~~This is the best one~~.		이게 제일 좋은 거예요. = Este é o melhor.
	→ 이게 제일 좋은 거래요. = ~~They say that this is the best one~~.		→ 이게 제일 좋은 거래요. = Dizem que este é o melhor.
	~~And in this lesson~~, ~~we are looking at the following structures~~:		E nesta lição, veremos as seguintes estruturas:
	1. -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요)		1. -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요)
	2. -(이)라던데(요)		2. -(이)라던데(요)
			Ambas são muito similares às estruturas introduzidas na lição anterior. -(느)ㄴ다던데(요) é similar à -(ㄴ/는)대(요) (da primeira sentença revisada acima) e ow to say “They say …”, or “I hear that …” in Korean in order to re-tell someone what you’ve heard from someone else. The structures used for saying these are -(ㄴ/는)대(요) and -(이)래(요).
			Let’s review a little bit.
			My friend is busy now.
			My friend says that she is busy now.
			This is the best one.
			They say that this is the best one.
			And in this lesson, we are looking at the following structures:

	Both of these are very similar to the structures introduced in the previous lesson. -(느)ㄴ다던데(요) is similar to -(ㄴ/는)대(요) (from the first review sentence above) and -(이)라던데(요) is similar to -(이)래(요). Just like -(ㄴ/는)대(요) is an abbreviation of -(ㄴ/는)다고 해(요), -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요) is an abbreviation of -(ㄴ/는)다고 하던데(요). The same applies to -(이)래(요) and -(이)라던데(요).		Both of these are very similar to the structures introduced in the previous lesson. -(느)ㄴ다던데(요) is similar to -(ㄴ/는)대(요) (from the first review sentence above) and -(이)라던데(요) is similar to -(이)래(요). Just like -(ㄴ/는)대(요) is an abbreviation of -(ㄴ/는)다고 해(요), -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요) is an abbreviation of -(ㄴ/는)다고 하던데(요). The same applies to -(이)래(요) and -(이)라던데(요).
	Difference between -(ㄴ/는)대(요) and -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요)		Difference between -(ㄴ/는)대(요) and -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요)

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In the previous lesson, we learned how to say “They say …”, or “I hear that …” in Korean in order to re-tell someone what you’ve heard from someone else. The structures used for saying these are -(ㄴ/는)대(요) and -(이)래(요).
Let’s review a little bit.
1.
제 친구가 지금 바빠요. = My friend is busy now.
→ 제 친구가 지금 바쁘대요. = My friend says that she is busy now.
2.
이게 제일 좋은 거예요. = This is the best one.
→ 이게 제일 좋은 거래요. = They say that this is the best one.
And in this lesson, we are looking at the following structures:
1. -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요)
2. -(이)라던데(요)
Both of these are very similar to the structures introduced in the previous lesson. -(느)ㄴ다던데(요) is similar to -(ㄴ/는)대(요) (from the first review sentence above) and -(이)라던데(요) is similar to -(이)래(요). Just like -(ㄴ/는)대(요) is an abbreviation of -(ㄴ/는)다고 해(요), -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요) is an abbreviation of -(ㄴ/는)다고 하던데(요). The same applies to -(이)래(요) and -(이)라던데(요).
Difference between -(ㄴ/는)대(요) and -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요)
Whereas -(ㄴ/는)대(요) is used to mainly just re-tell a story or deliver certain information, when you use -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요), you imply that you want some kind of reaction or response from the listener.
지금 와요. = She’s coming now.
지금 온대요. = She says she’s coming now.
지금 온다던데요. = She says she’s coming now. (+ (ex) Should we wait?/What do you think?)
유명해요. = He’s famous.
유명하대요. = They say he’s famous.
유명하다던데요. = They say he’s famous. (+ (ex) But you said otherwise, right?)
* The same applies to -(이)래(요) and -(이)라던데(요).
학생이에요. = He’s a student.
학생이래요. = He says he’s a student.
학생이라던데요. = He says he’s a student. (+ (ex) What shall we do then?)
공원이에요. = They are at a park. / It is a park.
공원이래요. = They say they are at a park.
공원이라던데요. = They say they are at a park. (+ (ex) Shall we go there?)
Difference between -(ㄴ/는)다던데(요) and -(ㄴ/는)다는데(요)
There is a slight difference in nuance between -던데 and -는데, and it’s based on the fact that -던 is usually associated with the past tense whereas -는 is associated with the present tense.
We are going to look at -던 in a more detail in a future lesson, so please just note the difference for now.
지금 온다던데요. = They said that they would come here now.
지금 온다는데요. = They are saying that they will come here now.
유명하다던데요. = I heard that she’s famous.
유명하다는데요. = He is saying that she’s famous.
* The same applies to -(이)래(요), -(이)라던데(요) and -(이)라는데(요).
학생이라던데요. = They told me that they were students.
학생이라는데요. = They say that they are students.
공원이라던데요. = They said that they were at a park.
공원이라는데요. = They say that they are at a park.
Sample Sentences
1. 여기 위험하다던데요.
= I heard that this place is dangerous. (+ (ex) What do you think?)
2. 혼자 갈 거라던데요.
= She said she would go there alone. (+ (ex) Shall I talk to her again? / You can’t go with her.)
3. 그 사람도 모른다던데요.
= He said that he doesn’t know either. (+ (ex) So why keep asking him?)
4. 벌써 다 끝났다던데요.
= They said that it was already all over. (+ (ex) There was nothing I could do.)
5. 한국에 겨울에 가면 많이 춥다던데요.
= I heard that it’s very cold in Korea if you go there in winter. (+ (ex) Perhaps you should pack more clothes.)