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Upgrade
Just upgraded it and still having some problems,
- first one of the extensions still doesn't work with the user profiles.
- recent changes gives an sql error
- history on pages gives an sql error
- Ok I did a fresh install leaving only a few folders not deleted and that seemed to work for whatever reason. The only problem that remains is some of the templates come out really wacky now. Perhaps they aren't saved in the sql? I have to add the extensions again and update the localsettings file, but this is a good start for now since it's atleast working. --Bluesoju 17:20, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Just notice the edit tools aren't working. I'm not sure why all of this stuff is broken now, I can't imagine wikimedia making changes to software that would break a lot of things if it were on one of their own wikis. --Bluesoju 23:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- I've updated all the plugins to the latest code and have added all the plugins back into the settings which were there before. Hopefully everything's fine. --Mstrum 18:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Heavy concerns about the licencing policy
I'd suggest to change the licence under which the content is published. A licence that allows no derivative works is a contradiction in itself when used for a wiki. It actually means, that every entry, once it's created, is not allowed to be changed by anyone except for the author. So every contribution by any user must remain untouched under the licence you've chosen. This means, that using this website as a wiki is illegal, because you are infringing the rights of the other users when you edit their contributions.
What would be the advantage of chosing a nd-licence anyway? To keep the content on your site? To prevent a fork to occur? I think, it merely hinders the creative process and the distribution of information. Why shouldn't one be allowed to compile data from this site into a nice pdf-file? Why shouldn't one be allowed to record example-sentences or make a podcast under a at-nc-licence? There are so many useful ways to use the information of the korean wiki project, why would one want to cross these possibilites out? Futureboy 03:16, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for voicing your opinion. Matt and I have talked about exactly how to deal with the copyright of this site. When I first started this site I simply chose the current license, but it doesn't mean this is the permanent license. Some concerns I have are about websites that charge people to learn Korean using our free content and making people pay. I also don't want someone in the future putting our explanations and articles into a book and making money off of us. Another thing is I just don't want people ripping off our work and not crediting us. I admit I'm new to this so I don't know much about the copyright issues, so perhaps you could suggest a better license to meet the criteria I've mentioned. --Bluesoju 03:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your immediate reply. I seems, that you don't want people to make money with the contributions of volunteers and that you want them to be credited. That's exactly what the Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial Licence is made for, which should be extended with the Share Alike option, so that all derivative works are under the same licence. If somebody is using content under such a licence for commercial purposes or uses it without mentioning the authorship, you can file a lawsuit agaist this person. The licence I would recommend for this project is http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/
- The problem with changing the licence later on is, that you have to ask all the authors for their agreement. They contributed to this site under a certain licence, and they are the only ones who can relicence the work. You as the administrator of this site can't do it, because you don't own the content. So it's advisable to make a licence change while the project is still small.Futureboy 06:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your advice, I'll look into changing it as soon as possible (gotta find out how first). Since the project is still small, please let us know if you have any other suggestions. If your interested in being a sysop as well, let me know. Thanks for your help and hope to see further contributions and suggestions from you. --Bluesoju 06:38, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Redesign
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Welcome
The Korean Wiki Project is a collaborative effort to unify knowledge on the Korean language and to make the information easily accessible and relevant to anyone. First, this site is under major construction. A lot of the articles are incomplete and have been created for future editing. The site hasn't been publicly released yet and won't be until a good amount of articles have been completed. This website explains Korean grammar patterns, idioms, slang, along with practical vocabulary words organized by subject. This site will also thoroughly teach you how to read and write Hangeul (한글), the Korean script, with many examples and even advanced consonant assimilation rules. The site was originally intended to explain everything in English, however as the majority of Korean language students these days are Japanese and Chinese, we encourage users to provide translations in both languages respectively. One of the goals of this project is to provide the most accurate, in depth information and accurate translations for Korean grammar patterns and vocabulary words where other dictionaries and books fail. Another goal is to make all information on here simple and easy to understand. In order to make use of this wiki, your computer must first properly display Korean characters. If you see boxes, random characters or question marks, throughout this wiki instead of Korean characters, then your computer isn't properly displaying Korean characters. As a test, your browser should properly display the following:
If you only see boxes, numbers, or questions marks in the white box above, please see the simple instructions on how to install Korean on our computer here |
We Need Your Help
As with all good wikis, we need a number of good contributors, both non-native and native speakers alike. Non-native speakers, especially those who have taken Korean classes and own various textbooks, shouldn't shy away from contributing. By contributing, you can help cement concepts in your mind. However, with non-native speakers contributing, not all examples and sentences will come out correctly. There are always sentences that seem good, but still sound awkward to native speakers. This is where having native speakers contributing would be extremely helpful. If you want to start contributing now, please create an account. After creating an account, please visit the getting started guide for more helpful information. The more people contributing, the more we can get done, which means more accurate and thorough information about the Korean language available to everyone. You don't have to be a grammar guru or an expert to contribute. If you have other ways to contribute, then by all means please do so.
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Purpose Anyone who has studied Korean as a second language knows it’s hard to find a book that is both accurate and easy to read. On top of that, most books don’t provide thorough details on grammar usage and don’t describe the feeling certain grammar and words give. Even the best dictionaries provide no insight into whether the word is mostly used by females, if it’s inappropriate to use with strangers and if the word sounds too formal to use on most occasions. These are often learned in intensive language institutes and through immersing yourself in Korean, where using the wrong word might’ve made a few people laugh at your expense. For students studying at a language institute, the standard text book might not provide enough explanations, examples or have numerous bad translations. So these students often rely on other textbooks (which have their own problems as well) and end up looking through several textbooks. When it’s time to study, no student wants to carry around several textbooks and hunt for the same grammar pattern in each one. Additionally, there will be things the student learns in class that aren’t provided in any of their textbooks. With a wiki, people who have already figured out accurate translations for Korean grammar patterns can give their own 2 cents on current articles, as well as create their own articles. Telling the textbook it’s wrong isn’t going to change anything, whereas in a wiki if you see something wrong you can fix it yourself and add your own insight. Furthermore no one wants to carry around several text books and pages of notes and go searching through them; it’s much easier to pull up an article on this wiki, not to mention it can be accessed anywhere, anytime. For more information, see about Korean Wiki Project. Learning KoreanIf you're completely new to Korean, you should learn Hangeul, the Korean alphabet, first. You can also browse the articles in the basics section. For more advanced users, select any of the main categories at the left side of the page to find a subject you are interested in studying. If you are confused about how to exactly use this wiki, see the getting started section for more information. Have an article creation or explanation request? Please make one here and we will try to prioritize it. |
We Need Your Help As with all good wikis, we need a number of good contributors, both non-native and native speakers alike. Non-native speakers, especially those who have taken Korean classes and own various textbooks, shouldn't shy away from contributing. By contributing, you can help cement concepts in your mind. However, with non-native speakers contributing, not all examples and sentences will come out correctly. There are always sentences that seem good, but still sound awkward to native speakers. This is where having native speakers contributing would be extremely helpful. If you want to start contributing now, please create an account. After creating an account, please visit the getting started guide for more helpful information. The more people contributing, the more we can get done, which means more accurate and thorough information about the Korean language available to everyone. You don't have to be a grammar guru or an expert to contribute. If you have other ways to contribute, then by all means please do so.
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Another redesign
This is just a little brainstorming I did regarding the new front page. You are welcome to edit what I have listed. In the even that you do change anything, remove all of my "I find" and "I believe"s to denote that it is not only my opinion, and also sign your name when you are done.
Right now the Main Page looks much like the community portal page, except with a few things left out and a large amount of rewording. Let's change it away from a massive contributing advertisement (while still doing so, of course) and focus more on promoting the material found within the Wiki.
Current outline of things found below (in the new design):
- News and announcements - links to the news page
- Experts and Native Speakers - possible tasks for such people, all of which involve a form of contributing
- Questions - questions posed to the Korean Wiki Project community (This should be kept on the community portal)
- Leaderboard - Shows top contributors
- General Tasks - A list of tasks for users wishing to take part in the content of the Wiki
- Contributing
- Vocabulary
- Stubs
- Photography
- Media
- To do
- Brainstorm
- Urgent Tasks
- Requested Media
List of things I find pertinent:
- News and announcements
- Link to Community Portal along with an advertisement of a brief list of things on that page
- Urgent Tasks - if these are truly urgent, why not bring attention to them?
Things that I believe should be added:
- An improved featured articles page
- Getting started
- New to Korean? - Link to a miniature "guide" on things concerning absolute beginners, starting first with an introduction to what type of language Korean is and a very brief history.
- How to use this Wiki
- Contributing - Briefly mention community portal (seeing as it has so many things regarding contributing)
- Understanding the format of this Wiki (i.e., how the 한자 pages are organized)
- Reading the Wiki - Key things like understanding the syntax and proper display of Hangeul, much like that which is found on: Getting started; could just link to it.
- Link to a forum if one will exist in the future
- Mission/goal statement
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Welcome to the Korean Wiki Project |
 WelcomeThe Korean Wiki Project is a collaborative effort to unify knowledge on the Korean language and to make the information easily accessible and relevant to anyone. First, this site is under major construction. A lot of the articles are incomplete and have been created for future editing. One of the goals of this project is to provide the most accurate, in depth information and accurate translations for Korean grammar patterns and vocabulary words where other dictionaries and books fail. Another goal is to make all information on here simple and easy to understand. As more people contribute to this project, the information becomes more accurate and better explained. For more information on this project, see the about section.
 Getting StartedFirst thing, do you see random boxes and gibberish or Korean characters: "안녕하세요?" If you see gibberish, you need to install Korean characters. (link)
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